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so i'm jeremy corbell and i've read your

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article the best i could being

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translated from hebrew

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yeah i hope they're going to have a

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better translation like a professional

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translation maybe later this week so if

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there is one i'm gonna i'm gonna mail it

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to you okay

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that's great yeah so i basically have 10

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questions for you

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i just want to start off just by if you

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can tell me your name

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and your occupation okay my name is

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ranaan ranani is my first name shaked is

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the last name ranan shaken

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uh i'm i'm a writer for

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uh the other for not daily the idiot is

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the biggest deal in israel

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and i mostly do magazine

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articles and features

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for the weekend magazine and some other

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stuff as well

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but that that's my main thing

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you recently did an article with uh

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professor hayim

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a shed and your story broke the internet

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i mean it received global exposure

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excerpts of your story you have been

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featured on cnn nbc

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fox news forbes magazine vice and even

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tmz um were you surprised by the global

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reaction to your recent article

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yes very much so you know usually

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articles that are published here are

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don't get that much uh

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coverage from from world media uh

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unless they they have to do with uh

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security issues or you know that sort of

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of stuff but but uh yeah

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usually usually you would get coverage

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from israeli press

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uh and so forth but you won't get uh

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that much uh world coverage so yeah that

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was quite quite a surprise yeah

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and actually i didn't think it was gonna

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get all that because uh you know

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although it was

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kind of interesting and and uh thought

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provoking uh speaking to professor

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airshed

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um i i don't know if what he was saying

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was

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such a you know mind-blowing uh

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thing i mean i mean you've heard you've

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heard about some of the phenomenas

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before if

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you read some some articles and we're

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into ufology in any sort of way

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so so uh he's just uh he's just

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i guess a a leading figure and a major

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figure uh

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here and possibly worldwide so when he

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when it comes from him uh possibly it

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has some some more impact

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yeah so that's what i wanted to talk

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with you about i mean your article

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was kind of chopped up and they took

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little quotes and

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and made them the the lead but i was

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able to read

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the full story which has a lot more

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context

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so how you're showing that it wasn't as

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impressive to you this stuff has been

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covered

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it shows the appetite of the global

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public about the ufo phenomenon at this

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time

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but what you said is really critical

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it's who is saying it

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so can you tell me from an israeli

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perspective

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ashad

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um who he is what he's done in his life

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separate from all of this basically he's

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one of the uh

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the leading figures uh in uh israeli

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aviation

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uh he has been for years uh you know

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he's 81 years old now

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and he's not even retired i mean he

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still works for uh

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for for some establishments i think

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uh but uh what he's best known for is

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his work

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uh uh in um

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kind of inventing and and putting

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together the first

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israeli satellite uh back in the 80s uh

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which was a big deal because israel was

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at the time you know and it still is but

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these fields

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and and we were actually the seventh

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country i think uh

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globally to to launch

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a miss you know a satellite so that was

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back in the 80s and then he was also

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uh he was for like 29 years i think

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uh the head of the israeli um space

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agency

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um and he actually started it and he led

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uh for almost three decades so so yeah

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he's he's a major figure he's

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uh in any one he won couple of prizes

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prices for stuff that he did here that

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that weren't even published i mean

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it's still it's still uh being censored

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uh i mean you can now you can you know

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it is it was published that he won the

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awards

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but they couldn't publish what it was

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for uh like national security

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uh type of thing so so yeah he's he's uh

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he's a he's a senior character yeah so i

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you know i've got a you know five bullet

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points of his career that are

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that are public and he's a retired

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brigadier general

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in the israeli forces uh former director

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of the space programs as you mentioned

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for the israeli ministry of defense for

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he was an officer in the israeli

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military intelligence

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and he served in a very secret unit unit

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81 serving the defense forces

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throughout his career as you mentioned

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he received the israel defense prize

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three times the nature of which is

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classified why he won that prize

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um and a couple other things i mean he's

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also a professor

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at the asher space research institute

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holds a bachelor's degree in electronics

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in engineering a master's degree a

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doctorate

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in aeronautical engineering uh he's been

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father of the israeli

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satellite program so by all means

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this this gentleman is credible when it

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comes to

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space and and space aviation

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so did you find him credible as a human

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being

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sitting in that room with him or

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interviewing him did you find him

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incredible very much so

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you know as i was mentioning is is

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not very young but he's very you know

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he's totally there

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he's very well educated about everything

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he speaks about i mean as far as i can

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you know sometimes he would want to you

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know he would jump from from

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one one point to another just because he

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wanted to say so much about so many

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things but but other than that uh he's

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very much uh you know he was there he

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was an excellent uh

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interviewee um did you know did you know

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what he was gonna

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talk about did you know he was gonna

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talk about ufos and aliens before you

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went into to

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interview this exceptional individual

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you know i kind of did you know

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the reason we met uh was was his book he

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published a book about his a

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basically an autobiography

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and most of the book like two thirds of

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the book uh

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aren't about ufology it's about his life

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career and and you know everything that

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you have described and some other stuff

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uh but the uh the last part of this book

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uh like maybe quarter of the book uh

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is about ufology and and uh you know

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findings from from the last decade or so

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interested in that

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um and and i thought he was gonna

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you know he i didn't know how willing he

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would be to discuss that

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at length uh and i was surprised to find

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out that

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he was very much interested actually uh

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before i even brought a subject up i

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thought we would you know first we'll

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talk about his career and then various

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endeavors

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uh but uh no i soon almost as soon as we

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he uh he brought that up and he said you

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and he wanted to talk about it that

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that's what he he was most excited about

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so yeah so we devoted a large part of

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the conversation

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uh to to get yeah there's a new wave

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of military acknowledgement about the

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ufo

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has been told

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ufos are real we have them on video

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the famous video footage by commander

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underwood of the tic tac ufo off

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the west coast of california

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uh commander david fravor is another

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story i reported on he's the fighter

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pilot that chased the ufo

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so our united states government kind of

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slow to the game

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has started admitting and providing

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evidence and proof and saying we have

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active programs to study this but

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some people are claiming your article

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a sort of uh exaggeration or sorry it

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was a sort of publicity stunt

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for professor sheds book

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he did do the interview to promote his

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book otherwise i don't know if he would

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have done an interview

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at this time uh but you know that's very

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that's very

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common usually a person of this stature

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an interview uh for a reason

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and and um i don't think he was up to

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any publicity stuff actually he's not

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that type of person he's you know he's a

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science person and he's uh

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he's a serious man i don't i don't think

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he's very knowledgeable about

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you know media and publicity stunts and

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all that stuff

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he was just doing what his pr person

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told me he needs to do and that

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was uh to grant an interview that that's

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all i

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you know but you know we should always

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consider that that

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um that the uh the interest in that

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subject always rises

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uh at various times of you know uh

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growing distrust in in establishment and

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governments and media and we've seen

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uh back in the 90s and we

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uh you know when the internet was was

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growing

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and we see it now uh you know and we

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know why you know that

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right now with all the uh you know

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fake news and social media stuff that

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people are you know gradually growing uh

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impatient and this they don't trust

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anymore

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the uh the regular media and and the

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government

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and establishment and and so ufology

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comes back to

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the foreground uh and and it's being

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discussed uh more heavily

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i remember you know the wave that we had

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when the x-files was broadcast back in

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the 90s

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uh so so i would suggest

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you know discussing it of course

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uh and and urging our governments to to

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uh

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to give us whatever information they

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might have uh

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but you know keeping uh uh some sense of

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of skepticism you know this sense of

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skepticism because

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because we still don't i don't know

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about you but but as far as i'm

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concerned i i

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never come acro okay i came across any

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any

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uh physical evidence of such

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yeah i mean the seeker is the finder

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people need to dedicate you know a lot

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of time to getting to the bottom of this

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complex woven mystery of what are ufos

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are they machines visiting here where

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are they from what are their intent

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i guess my question for you as a

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journalist is

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well one you've just urged that other

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countries and countries

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do tell us the information they have and

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i agree with you i think that

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this information is a right we have a

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right to know if we're alone in the

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universe if we have evidence to the

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contrary that we're alone

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we should know it as a global culture

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but

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as a journalist you have to have a good

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meter you know you have to be

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able to read people

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right when you interviewed uh professor

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ashed

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can you tell me did he seem to

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truly believe the things he's quoted as

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saying

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yeah very much so he i'm he is totally

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into it and

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the good thing about one good thing

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about him is that everything is his

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kind of document he has documents uh for

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everything that he claims

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uh is true and and and he also again and

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again to show me

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uh various articles and documents and

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videos and

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what have you uh and he has this really

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big library

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uh of of you know of his research of

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for from the last decade or decade or so

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uh

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so he's he's i i you know

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i i got the impression that he was uh

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very much convinced himself and and not

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only that that he

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is also convinced that he has the uh the

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evidence he was he kept

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saying that the mainstream academy uh

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will not will not cooperate on that and

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that

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um you know he he wasn't able to to get

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there

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uh to get their cooperation uh

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or or consent um

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but still he said that that at this

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point in his career

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uh you know he he earned his his uh

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whatever his awards or his his

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credentials and he doesn't need to

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be that cautious anymore and that's why

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he wants to come out with it

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right here he spoke about a lot of

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things that i've reported on

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and scientists and people within the

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military that i've

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interviewed from my movies and for my

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social media

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for example he mentioned robert bigelow

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he mentioned

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the the nids national institute of

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discovery science organization that

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studied skinwalker ranch

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he mentions the bigelow advanced

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aerospace space studies maybe not by

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name but that was the defense

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intelligence

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agency group working under ossap um

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that did these experiments so i know the

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scientific community

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has had an allergy to looking at the

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evidence and it's a big

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shame well he also mentioned the thing

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in hawaii

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yeah yeah the the deep space i guess you

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call it

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professor lane from harvard who was

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quoted saying that it was a ufo uh

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and uh yeah and he was also talking

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about stuff we already uh heard about

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like you know the various pres

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american presidents that that were said

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that have said before that that they had

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close contacts or or you know eisenhower

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signing an agreement

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with the ufos to to have their base in

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nevada

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and so yeah he was he was uh talking

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about all of this

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yeah i mean i guess the question that

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people want to know is

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someone of that military stature that

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political stature

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is he speaking from what he has read

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and deduced or is he speaking from

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personal

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experience where he's engaged other

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scientists

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my impression was that yeah he was very

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as i've said well educated about the

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existing media and and uh and other

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publication you know publications but

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but uh

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he also said a couple of times that he

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was speaking to his colleagues

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uh either at uh various academic uh

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institutes

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and at nasa and that they will say

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that he heard stuff from them that he is

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not uh

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he cannot quote directly um

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or repeat or or publicize yet

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but but yeah he has he also learned

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stuff from from his

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connections with people who investigate

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the subject and not only the

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media regarding ufos he has direct

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information that he can't disclose yeah

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yeah

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that's that's what he was saying

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fascinating so because your article

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it a bombshell across the world and

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it was kind of parsed into these little

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quotes the parts that made it

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in the translation i got this

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translation right off of your paper's

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official facebook page

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there's seven quotes and i just want to

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read them for whoever you know watches

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this

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in translation so let me just read you

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the seven and then

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see what you said okay uh the ufos asked

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uh

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not to advertise that they are here

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humanity

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is not ready yet trump was on the verge

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of finding out but the aliens in the

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galactic federation say wait

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let the spirits calm down they don't

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want us to have mass hysteria they want

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to make us sane and understanding first

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they waited until today

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for humanity to evolve and reach a stage

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where we will

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understand what space and spaceships are

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he said there is an agreement between

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the us government and the aliens he said

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they signed a contract

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with us to experiment here they are also

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investigating and trying to understand

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the rule of the universe and they want

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us

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as helpers uh there's a a ground base on

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mars and that's

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where their representatives and our

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american astronauts are too

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and he said if i came up with what i was

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saying five years ago today

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i would have been hospitalized but uh

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every place

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that until today i went to the academy

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with this they said

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the guy has lost his mind today we are

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already

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talking differently i have nothing to

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lose i received my degrees

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and awards did he say those things to

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you or is that lost in translation

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oh yeah no no he said all of these

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things all these these are really uh

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you know you're reporting from uh

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various snippets from from the

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interview but yeah he said all these

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things maybe with the exception of the

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agreement between us government and the

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ufos uh he was referring to the uh

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eisenhower uh thing uh

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and he's uh he quoted his uh

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granddaughter jackie

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i think okay i understand his daughter

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who said her grandfather

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told her that there was such an

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agreement i don't think he

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that's that would be my only way i mean

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this is this is why it's going here

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and and all the other stuff that you've

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uh quoted was

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uh was right on the nose yeah it was

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that's basically what he was saying

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yeah this is why the context of your

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full article which was eloquently

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written

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is so important because he's not

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claiming this himself

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as an official he is saying this is one

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part of the story

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or mythology or story itself of ufology

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he's telling you somebody else said this

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and that's so

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important that people understand that

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distinction the other thing he said that

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really

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made me stand back a little bit was

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where did he come up with the term

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galactic federation was that a

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generalized term or was that a specific

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thing he was quoting

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uh that's you know what i would have to

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uh kind of

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they myself for not further

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investigating with him the subject of

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the uh

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of the galactic uh confederation of

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federation

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uh i i didn't get into that because

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because there was so much to talk about

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and i cannot really tell you what he was

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referring to

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only that he mentioned that they had

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nine

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members uh all are are

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better involved than we are at this

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point

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and that they were examining us and uh

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you know that

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and that they have specifically uh asked

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before not to

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be exposed yet uh here on earth um

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but that's that's all i got on this

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subject maybe we should have gone

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further into it but we did not

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so professor ashat is a sane man

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well you know what i'm i'm just a

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journalist you know i'm i'm not a i'm

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not a professional

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on that but if you talk to him you get

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the one-on-one with him

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he he appears to be very much uh sane

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and uh and uh you know he

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is a he's a fascinating uh

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person to talk to and yeah and he's not

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at all

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uh out of touch in any way that i was

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able to

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uh to note uh really i mean

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uh he's very much here and now and

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he's he's there in the room and he's uh

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as

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very sad yeah

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so he's you know he's telling us from

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information he might personally know

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from

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agencies like nasa but also what he's

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deduced over time

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that ufos are real and we're being

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visited by other intelligent beings that

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was the crux of what he said

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despite the details whatever they may be

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what i think we can take from that is is

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that obviously we are not alone it

573
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doesn't make any sense that we are alone

574
00:21:08,230 --> 00:21:06,720
again there are like 300 million stars

575
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uh

576
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galactics that that they had that they

577
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have

578
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uh the right conditions for uh for life

579
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forms to

580
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to uh to to uh

581
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evolve uh and and i think we can uh

582
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pretty much i would say take that for

583
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granted uh

584
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that we are not alone in the universe

585
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and uh

586
00:21:39,830 --> 00:21:38,720
you know if we're not alone it's just a

587
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matter of time before

588
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uh we do get to contact

589
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if not already our colleagues i don't

590
00:21:48,630 --> 00:21:47,360
know if they're colleagues i don't know

591
00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:48,640
what they are

592
00:21:51,669 --> 00:21:51,200
other people from other places right

593
00:21:59,029 --> 00:21:51,679
other

594
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hopefully yeah well look it was a truly

595
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fascinating um article when i was able

596
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to read what i believe

597
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is the full version and i really do hope

598
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that it goes beyond

599
00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:08,799
the the punch line beyond the you know

600
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just the quotes

601
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from your article that people can read

602
00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:13,120
the context because

603
00:22:16,390 --> 00:22:15,440
it does seem that professional shed is a

604
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very thoughtful

605
00:22:20,710 --> 00:22:18,640
and serious person and he's saying

606
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things that have great impact

607
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if any of it is true and i know we all

608
00:22:27,029 --> 00:22:25,200
want to know the truth my curiosity is

609
00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:27,039
weaponized that's what i like to say

610
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because it's a weapon for me is is being

611
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able to speak with someone like you

612
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talked with him

613
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it's one step closer to knowing the

614
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truth so i just want to thank you for an

615
00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:36,640
eloquent article and thank you for

616
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speaking with me

617
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and you know let me know if you find out

618
00:22:41,909 --> 00:22:40,880
anything else about this in your

619
00:22:44,710 --> 00:22:41,919
journalism

620
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if there's any uh if there's any

621
00:22:54,610 --> 00:22:46,480
developments i will let you know

622
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thanks for that same here take care